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Yoel 外號[sosad]
Gay Jesus:-]


Yoel 外號[sosad]
Gay Jesus:-]


呢條友d口音難聽到Hi Hi[sosad]

大陸佬幫佢安咗個外號叫 板凳, 諷刺既對Tim Kennedy個場
比Tim Kennedy打到暈陀陀, round之間休息夠鐘都仲坐係張凳仔唔起身#ass#
仲要第3round 反cup[fuck]


講真John jones幾時輸
其實我好新手,初頭就係見佢打,咀gel gel串串共唔likexx(


鍾意睇但唔識
留名學野[slick]


講真John jones幾時輸
其實我好新手,初頭就係見佢打,咀gel gel串串共唔likexx(

人多人唔鐘意佢, 又食藥, 又插人眼, 又串, 但堅勁吹佢唔漲
佢用腳撐人膝頭個招, 同埋極長既手, 令對手好難打贏
黎緊會打Thiago Santos, 呢條友第1round通過high pace進攻, 睇下搏唔搏到大霧:-(fjfn


鍾意睇但唔識
留名學野[slick]

大家討論下#hoho#
有咩想知講下, 呢到應該好多資深fans#hoho#


JBJ岩岩個場我同一個朋友都覺得佢麻麻地,打唔返以前個痴線水準,可能要慢慢捉返個節奏


JBJ岩岩個場我同一個朋友都覺得佢麻麻地,打唔返以前個痴線水準,可能要慢慢捉返個節奏

對Anthony Smith個場?_?
其實我覺得佢對DC 2個場開始, 個pacing都好慢, 都係控制distance為主

純粹9估: 停禁藥既問題, 睇佢d肌肉都弱咗好多
被停賽過兩次, 真係唔可以再食, 三次應該會被終身禁賽. 尋日先有個俄佬犯3次, 比USADA終身禁賽


tony d elbow 都勁


tony d elbow 都勁


Tony Ferguson 好unorthodox, 創意一流#good#
不過好彩chin硬同柔術保平安, 有幾場差d被TKO[sosad]


Wrestling

今日講下摔跤手.

Wrestling 摔跤, 其實有好多種類, 亦都有係奧運項目 (古典/自由式摔跤).
係MMA世界, Wrestling 主要係將對手摔落地下 (takedown), 從而係地面用唔同既位置去壓制對手 (position, 例如Mount, Side control, Guard, Back, 等等, 有機會再詳細講), 再進行地面攻擊 (ground and pound, GNP) 或submission attempt (關節技, 同BJJ有關)

最大特色係經常貼身用唔同既技術去摔低對手. 因為好似Wrestling, 會將對手長時間壓係地,就算有效打擊唔多, 都容易羸取點數 (參考番講如何定勝負個篇).

但缺點係觀眾唔鍾意睇. 兩條麻甩佬成場身貼身, 又可能無咩打中對手做成傷害, 比賽會較無咁刺激. 所以有人講笑叫呢種打法做 基佬流[flowerface]sg

正如之前講過, 好多UFC選手都係Wrestling出身, 例如玩NCAA Wristling (美國大學賽), 甚至奧運. Wrestling. 因為Wrestling好講求核心肌手力量, 摔跤手擁有好強既身體基礎同力量. 同時摔跤賺唔到咩大錢 (唔計WWE), 所以好多時會學格鬥轉型做MMA fighter. 另外Wrestling技術都可能用黎防對手takedown, 所以係每個MMA選手必學.

但玩大學/奧運Wristling =/=UFC打得好, 最大分別係UFC係鐵籠打, 又可以用拳腳. 大學/奧運Wristling 係mat上面玩, 又唔可以Gound and Pound (有Wristling 比賽係可以用submission, 例如ADCC Submission Grappling). 所以一定要配合其他技術. 之前介紹過knee個part, 就有人takedown attempt個時被飛膝爆頭

選手介紹下一篇先講, 但比個小知識大家先

Cauliflower Ear (大陸叫餃子耳)
大家見到個人有呢種耳仔, 就知好大機會係Wristling 好手. 因為耳仔其實無骨頭, 只係一舊軟骨. 玩摔跤既人, 經常被壓係地, 造成經常受傷出血. 長時間就會出現永久性既變形. 所以見到呢種耳, 就知條友肯定花好多時間練地面戰
[img]https://upload.cc/i1/2019/04/03/Mza4ev.jpg[/img]

例子: 之後會介紹佢地. 同埋3個英文字 AKA, 睇下有無人知點解#hehe# #hehe#
[img]https://upload.cc/i1/2019/04/03/HtwKXg.jpg[/img]
[img]https://upload.cc/i1/2019/04/03/NFl3W8.jpg[/img]
[img]https://upload.cc/i1/2019/04/03/RM5o8u.jpg[/img]


題外話: 之前有巴打講ONE FC

ONE FC 係另一個MMA promotion, 新加坡公司, 比較多亞洲選手.
最近比較出名因為 MMA史上第一宗選手交易[shocking] [shocking] [shocking]
Ben Askren (ONE FC Welterweight champ) - > UFC
Demetrious Johnson (Former UFC Flyweight champ, 史上衛冕冠軍次數最多既選手) -> One FC

另外簽咗Eddie Alvarez, Former UFC Lightweight champ.

呢2位選手One FC Debut 係youtube有得免費睇番

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNTUXyRNn8s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRzLPtk_43k


題外話: 之前有巴打講ONE FC

ONE FC 係另一個MMA promotion, 新加坡公司, 比較多亞洲選手.
最近比較出名因為 MMA史上第一宗選手交易[shocking] [shocking] [shocking]
Ben Askren (ONE FC Welterweight champ) - > UFC
Demetrious Johnson (Former UFC Flyweight champ, 史上衛冕冠軍次數最多既選手) -> One FC

另外簽咗Eddie Alvarez, Former UFC Lightweight champ.

呢2位選手One FC Debut 係youtube有得免費睇番

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNTUXyRNn8s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRzLPtk_43k



Mightly mouse 原來過咗檔:O


好耐好耐之前
Youtube睇過段雜錦片
其中一段係寢技
大約係一個人係背後用手加腳將前面對手兩手打開
之後佢就不停用Elbow鋤對手

印象其中一個係著黑色柔道衫
有冇人知道係邊場???


好耐好耐之前
Youtube睇過段雜錦片
其中一段係寢技
大約係一個人係背後用手加腳將前面對手兩手打開
之後佢就不停用Elbow鋤對手

印象其中一個係著黑色柔道衫
有冇人知道係邊場???


back mount position 用elbow攻擊[???]lm
好難想像個姿勢係點[sosad2]lm


Mightly mouse 原來過咗檔:O


對Cejudo 2戰split decision輸後被交易
個人認為個場DJ贏xx(

不過主因係DJ係票房毒藥,又唔肯升135
(光頭佬想取消125, Cejudo肯升,黎緊會打Marlon Moraes爭vacant 135 belt)

p.s. TJ Hi啦傻 被查緊食禁藥#ass#


好耐好耐之前
Youtube睇過段雜錦片
其中一段係寢技
大約係一個人係背後用手加腳將前面對手兩手打開
之後佢就不停用Elbow鋤對手

印象其中一個係著黑色柔道衫
有冇人知道係邊場???


back mount position 用elbow攻擊[???]lm
好難想像個姿勢係點[sosad2]lm



搵到,原來係呢場

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H08BBFsVsK8


好耐好耐之前
Youtube睇過段雜錦片
其中一段係寢技
大約係一個人係背後用手加腳將前面對手兩手打開
之後佢就不停用Elbow鋤對手

印象其中一個係著黑色柔道衫
有冇人知道係邊場???


back mount position 用elbow攻擊[???]lm
好難想像個姿勢係點[sosad2]lm



搵到,原來係呢場

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H08BBFsVsK8


好好笑[sosad]
呢個position唔用arm bar用elbow咁有創意[sosad]




原來呢個都係Crucifix position
剩係見話khabib同DC係上位用,未見過背面
又學到野#yup# 以前d比賽真係多招式出

Copy form Wiki:
The resultant fight would be a spectacular knockout, as Herrera shot for a fireman's carry only to be caught in a crucifix position by Goodridge, who then proceeded to deliver multiple elbow strikes to the helpless Herrera's head, ending the bout in 13 seconds. The second elbow strike landed on Herrera's temple and knocked him unconscious, but the fight was not stopped until Goodridge landed seven more blows, giving Herrera a concussion and a broken cheekbone.[5][7] According to Goodridge, the hold had been planned by him and his cornermen after they casually witnessed Herrera training intensively his fireman's carry takeovers, although they had originally conceived it to set up a wrist lock, not strikes.




原來呢個都係Crucifix position
剩係見話khabib同DC係上位用,未見過背面
又學到野#yup# 以前d比賽真係多招式出

Copy form Wiki:
The resultant fight would be a spectacular knockout, as Herrera shot for a fireman's carry only to be caught in a crucifix position by Goodridge, who then proceeded to deliver multiple elbow strikes to the helpless Herrera's head, ending the bout in 13 seconds. The second elbow strike landed on Herrera's temple and knocked him unconscious, but the fight was not stopped until Goodridge landed seven more blows, giving Herrera a concussion and a broken cheekbone.[5][7] According to Goodridge, the hold had been planned by him and his cornermen after they casually witnessed Herrera training intensively his fireman's carry takeovers, although they had originally conceived it to set up a wrist lock, not strikes.

應該禁左咁樣出批掙
鋤得應頸骨都阻斷




原來呢個都係Crucifix position
剩係見話khabib同DC係上位用,未見過背面
又學到野#yup# 以前d比賽真係多招式出

Copy form Wiki:
The resultant fight would be a spectacular knockout, as Herrera shot for a fireman's carry only to be caught in a crucifix position by Goodridge, who then proceeded to deliver multiple elbow strikes to the helpless Herrera's head, ending the bout in 13 seconds. The second elbow strike landed on Herrera's temple and knocked him unconscious, but the fight was not stopped until Goodridge landed seven more blows, giving Herrera a concussion and a broken cheekbone.[5][7] According to Goodridge, the hold had been planned by him and his cornermen after they casually witnessed Herrera training intensively his fireman's carry takeovers, although they had originally conceived it to set up a wrist lock, not strikes.

應該禁左咁樣出批掙
鋤得應頸骨都阻斷

應該無禁到, 由平面橫向既elbow, 唔算12-6.


Quote:
A question that remains is why the exact same motion used by a fighter on his back isn't a foul. McCarthy explains it simply, "the clock doesn't move." Essentially, with the 12-6 analogy it's always a clock hung on a wall, so an illegal elbow is exclusively thrown from the ceiling to the floor. For example, Anderson Silva used elbows from his back at UFC 168 in his rematch against Chris Weidman. Those elbows are legal because they're 9-3 on the clock.


Wrestler 摔跤手

上次講到Wrestling. 有介紹過好選手係奧運級數. 係Knee個part介紹過Yoel Romero, Soldier of God 上帝之兵, 攞過奧運Wrestling 銀牌 下面呢位選手更加係奧運Wrestling 金牌#bye2#wc

Henry Cejudo, 現任UFC Flyweight Champ
第一位可以係125lbs打羸Demetrious Johnson (史上衛冕冠軍次數最多既選手). 最近一戰 T.J. Dillashaw (UFC Bantamweight champ)降級挑戰佢, 比佢32秒重拳TKO.

佢既Wrestling實力無容致疑. 同時係flyweight黎講佢體格係極大. 因為長期奧運級Wrestling訓練令佢肌力力量極強. 大家會見到好多Wrestler既拳都好重. 特別係輸咗職業生涯第一次MMA比賽比DJ之後, 加強咗腳步既靈活性同拳法. 係現時輕磅選手中TKO/KO比率比較高既選手.

黎緊係UFC238會對Marlon Moraes爭Bantamweight champ
[img]https://upload.cc/i1/2019/04/04/fbTczD.jpg[/img]


Khabib Nurmagomedov, UFC Lightweight Champ
27戰全勝. 可能係現今最屈機既摔跤手. 佢打法好單一, 就係takedown, takedown再takedown. 將對手全場壓係地面. 拳法係極廢, 站姿太直, 被攻擊會仰後, 呢D都係boxing既大忌. 但暫時都未有人可以破解既無敵既Wrestling.

好多選手都有好強takedown, Khabib最強既地方係地面控制, 好叻用膝將對手其中一隻手壓制, 然後進行ground and pound, 或者進入mount position.

不過呢位選手傷病太多, 退賽多過食飯, 比賽頻率好低, 細路個時同熊人摔跤 (下面有片)[flowerface]sg

[img]https://upload.cc/i1/2019/04/03/NFl3W8.jpg[/img]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjfOeLQG9-M


Daniel Cormier (DC), 第一位同時擁手UFC Lightheavy weight 同 Heavyweight champ既選手
DC 都係奧運級選手. 佢都係UFC官方評述員. DC係UFC剩係輸過比Jon Jones (未輸過, 剩係比人DQ過一場).

DC係輕重/重量級身材係好矮又重磅, 成個波咁. 但打法硬剩向前壓迫, 然後進行takeodwn. 同樣佢都擁手好重既拳同硬淨既chin. 但重點係DC差唔多30歲先轉打MMA, 35歲先贏到UFC金腰帶, 再係38歲贏埋Heavyweight champ, 係值得尊重既選手.

之前有巴打問佢幾時對Brock Lesnar. DC講過想係40歲退休, 但因為傷緊未可以打佢同UFC既合同既最後一戰. 所以下一戰會係DC收山戰, 大家可以留意下佢對手會係邊個.

[img]https://upload.cc/i1/2019/04/03/RM5o8u.jpg[/img]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrAZ9FnugLg


fox sport成日有得睇。不過冇live


題外話: AKA, American Kickboxing Academy

AKA係一間加洲既martial arts gym, 係MMA介好出名. 佢地擁有好多高手.
上面介紹既DC, Khabib都係佢地既成員. 其他冠軍級成員有
Cain Velasquez (Former UFC Heavyweight champion, 2-times), 出名Cardio勁, 外號Cardio King
Luke Rockhold (Former UFC Middleweight Champion), 出名條J好大:D2fj

大家會留意到之前介紹呢D選手會有兩個keyword: Wrestler #hoho#fj 同埋 傷[O:-)sk]

呢間gym最大突點係Wrestling訓練水平好高, 佢地既選手takdedown, ground and pound 能力強. 試想想你入去訓練, 係DC教你 (DC係AKA教Wrestling), 有機會同呢間最高級既Wrestler 對練.

同時佢地既訓練方法係被受批評, sparring同體能訓練過既激烈同舊式, 引致選手經常受傷.
上面介紹個4位選手既比賽頻率係好低, 你預一年都未必睇到佢地一次比賽

比D數字大家
Cain Velasquez 36歲, 打得17場MMA職業賽, Luke Rockhold 34歲, 20場比賽.

退賽比率:
[img]https://upload.cc/i1/2019/04/04/gPEYpx.jpg[/img]


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