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Moderate 即係點,係咪快過 easy 慢過 M :-(

比賽我會用返配速, 係唔係後期都係好Q辛苦...[sosad]
RPE主要訓練用
不過我聽族長講全馬睇心率好有用, 但你要問佢先得, 我冇跑過全馬唔清楚....[sosad]


究竟 carbon plated shoe係對achilles load多啲抑或少啲?

網上好多conflicting information。

我achilles好敏感。舊年傷過。


我個人用家來講, 要睇鞋
有D係無咁傷, EG. NIKE VAPORFLY
有D塊板係應D EG> NIKE ALPHAFLY

如果應D個款最好鞋帶要好緊, 個度力容易食到回彈向前.
否則對腳有D食咗度回力咁款

知道知道。

譬如Zoom Fly 同埋 Vaporfly比較,當然係Zoom Fly舒服啲。

我係諗緊著ZoomFly抑或Daily Trainer(譬如Infinity Run)跑32k長課。最衰舊患又有D緊。


我碳板都係運動場硬砌多, ...
依家訓練多數著NB 無板鞋, 係舒服輕快.

NB你著邊對
而家發覺rival fly都唔錯, 但個問題係個heel counter好硬, 我驚長用會傷Achilles... [sosad]
最完美都係舊boston....:-( [廢老mode]


半馬錦標賽跑1:34,第一次半馬達到標了

快喎, 平路半馬1:30係無問題.

依位巴打有留意佢, 進步得好快下, 好似跑好少tim, 如果跑得多可能係下個支可樂#adore#

咁可樂係更高層次.
又大隻, 又跑得快, 如果可樂身型縮下水, 跑進2:3X 都有可能.


Riverside 10k training week1
15/12 38 mins easy 6:24 (AHR:133 MHR:137) + gym
16/12 rest
17/12 41 mins moderate 5:35 (AHR: 151 MHR:157)
18/12 45 mins moderate 5:56/1k (AHR:147 MHR:152) tired, lots of negative thoughts
19/12 20 mins warm-up, 1350m x 4 at T, 1 min rest (6:40, 6:29, 6:30, 6:00) AVG HR 153 MHR:177 feeling like shit, really tough running at 160s HR, 170s was flat out racing.
HR recovery: 1 mins back to 120s, 2 mins 100s, 3-4 mins 90s
20/12 42 mins slow 7:09/1k (AHR:119 MHR:123) knackered at the start, but it got much better toward the end, nice, though got past by a grandma...lol
21/12 20 mins warm-up, 1350m x 4 at T, 1 min rest (6:13, 5:56, 6:00, 5:54, quite windy) AVG HR 161 MHR:180 very easy! Could've repeated the workout immediately if I wanted to, feeling invigorated! No watch-checking until the end of each rep. HR recovery: 1 min back to 120s, 2 mins 100s, 4 mins 90s.

本來諗sub-40, 但諗諗下目標都係健健康康咁跑, 時間今季佛系,緣份到了自然跑到, 好似係...除非唔係

btw, 今星期試下easy跑快D, 同家嫂差唔多pace, 跑左兩日唔對路, 好q累, 冇回復到, 我想佢係"easy", 但實際係"moderate", 之後星期五個workout跑到成pat屎咁, 完全扯唔高心率 xx(

前日慢跑由佢上7:10 1k, 比個阿嬸跑過左我 [sosad] [369]
但之後就回復返哂, 尋日跑完個workout覺得可以跑到4-5隻都得#yup#
我諗easy都係果日覺得輕鬆既pace算, 而家即係通常6:40-50 1k... [sosad]
btw, 家嫂你個態應該唔止43分 10k...

來緊幾星期會試下build up到一星期三次interval (675 x 8 at 10k, 1350 x 4 at t, 2700 x 2 at hm ) 如果有時間去運動場就600 x 9, 1400 x4, 2800 x 2
p.s: 唔係我個訓練唔係NSA, 事實我亦冇lactate meter, 不過有D野覺得的確值得參考

加油#adore# #adore# #adore#

屌你同叔一蕭跟唔跟機呀:-[

妖, 石門10KM改到同哩個賽差唔多期呀, 玩唔掂咁密.
仲有, 回晒塘, 年頭仲跑緊38MIN, 依家跑43MIN[sosad] [sosad] [sosad]
含得撚.


究竟 carbon plated shoe係對achilles load多啲抑或少啲?

網上好多conflicting information。

我achilles好敏感。舊年傷過。


我個人用家來講, 要睇鞋
有D係無咁傷, EG. NIKE VAPORFLY
有D塊板係應D EG> NIKE ALPHAFLY

如果應D個款最好鞋帶要好緊, 個度力容易食到回彈向前.
否則對腳有D食咗度回力咁款

知道知道。

譬如Zoom Fly 同埋 Vaporfly比較,當然係Zoom Fly舒服啲。

我係諗緊著ZoomFly抑或Daily Trainer(譬如Infinity Run)跑32k長課。最衰舊患又有D緊。


我碳板都係運動場硬砌多, ...
依家訓練多數著NB 無板鞋, 係舒服輕快.

NB你著邊對
而家發覺rival fly都唔錯, 但個問題係個heel counter好硬, 我驚長用會傷Achilles... [sosad]
最完美都係舊boston....:-( [廢老mode]


Propel v5
Rebel V4

如果輕快, 一定係Rebel V4, propel有點重, 同埋鞋窄點不太合我.
多數淘寶(天貓)NB官網買, 等佢特價(約6舊幾), REBEL出到 V5, V5評價唔知

啱啱睇過, 哩對.
https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?abbucket=15&id=886448113265&pisk=gl8S7o1fH82WqOh-p8l4h9VoRfbQFjuwwW1psBUz9aQJAyO9LbbEqBWQRtOGU6JEKn1p3p_F8BHkde6vt3llYYVBcLAO4pOnZ6Bppp6e4muwZQbhJAWI7VRo42YBxL682Ihd9_e-ggU8mxrVJAkZRoPAqY7pawbm7EEAstC8yMCKGtClswC829hfH61GpzpdJjGf61w8egIdDtCOHJed99CYM65Qy6CdwjOAn6_dppI-GIBc9wBKZMkfi06JNfotDO3bxQORhyUpy4j5CVBAis8bqgB6wUaQRWf5VOdRhYws-ejvtMT3tysBwhvh6Le-d9YXMUK9BxrPeh1B_HO-yrQyrQKOvFH3vQ7PFZLJfWUpGa6fYeI0Fx69rILGkiut1ILDUQYXTW3dgdWvZUQIWfb5yTQfiek0y9tvvUSl-8HCKEOvyHsrePWscKqQGG4CGOljGkqhc8vhKNBXHLSRis8ZGjw7xgCcGOljGkqh2sfVbjGbFkf..&rn=32a914cad7eaa23d74ddd40277dfe6bf&sku_properties=1627207%3A36991772083&spm=a312a.7700824.w4011-18768455542.73.2e446fb5VspdiU


究竟 carbon plated shoe係對achilles load多啲抑或少啲?

網上好多conflicting information。

我achilles好敏感。舊年傷過。


我個人用家來講, 要睇鞋
有D係無咁傷, EG. NIKE VAPORFLY
有D塊板係應D EG> NIKE ALPHAFLY

如果應D個款最好鞋帶要好緊, 個度力容易食到回彈向前.
否則對腳有D食咗度回力咁款

知道知道。

譬如Zoom Fly 同埋 Vaporfly比較,當然係Zoom Fly舒服啲。

我係諗緊著ZoomFly抑或Daily Trainer(譬如Infinity Run)跑32k長課。最衰舊患又有D緊。


我碳板都係運動場硬砌多, ...
依家訓練多數著NB 無板鞋, 係舒服輕快.

NB你著邊對
而家發覺rival fly都唔錯, 但個問題係個heel counter好硬, 我驚長用會傷Achilles... [sosad]
最完美都係舊boston....:-( [廢老mode]

Rival Fly 堅正。根本係現代薄底鞋。


十日之前,廿四度,我跑目標 M pace 10k 心率太高,打算放慢d。

都唔知係天氣太熱抑或係我水皮 :-(

當日測試目標係 442 pace. 打算放慢到 445 pace :-(

但我見往年慢過我既朋友 435 pace :-( 佢舊年先 sub 4

一般來講, vdot來講10K去到全馬會有跌watt
除左1.女仔 (女相對耐力較強)
2.你真係耐力型既人 (如族長)
3.你跑好高里數 (70K一星期起碼)
唔係既話一律建議aim 現時 10k 加多一兩分鐘比你既vdot作為全馬配速 (例如10K 43分就plug44/45分落去)
咁應該冇死
你個case 可以試下4:55-5:00, 咁巳經夠你大PB同sub 3:30
唔同其他賽, 全馬每年試既機會唔多, 我係你會保守D...
當然你都可以進取, 會support你#good#

咁樣比起年初目標慢好多 :-(
咁啦,我 UNICEF 會嘗試 445pace. 睇吓心率,如果高,全馬改 450pace. 如果低就 445.


Btw 05:00 唔係 330 [sosad]
本身已經係351。臨尾仲會爆偈 [banghead]


半馬錦標賽跑1:34,第一次半馬達到標了

快喎, 平路半馬1:30係無問題.

依位巴打有留意佢, 進步得好快下, 好似跑好少tim, 如果跑得多可能係下個支可樂#adore#

我最多一週三跑,我會gym同 游水。
我跑量對比好多人都好低,但我高強度一定唔會欺場。


https://upload.hkgolden.media/comment/dni21la0.rq0tv3z34y2.zw01015hwkb.mfp.jpg


Riverside 10k training week1
15/12 38 mins easy 6:24 (AHR:133 MHR:137) + gym
16/12 rest
17/12 41 mins moderate 5:35 (AHR: 151 MHR:157)
18/12 45 mins moderate 5:56/1k (AHR:147 MHR:152) tired, lots of negative thoughts
19/12 20 mins warm-up, 1350m x 4 at T, 1 min rest (6:40, 6:29, 6:30, 6:00) AVG HR 153 MHR:177 feeling like shit, really tough running at 160s HR, 170s was flat out racing.
HR recovery: 1 mins back to 120s, 2 mins 100s, 3-4 mins 90s
20/12 42 mins slow 7:09/1k (AHR:119 MHR:123) knackered at the start, but it got much better toward the end, nice, though got past by a grandma...lol
21/12 20 mins warm-up, 1350m x 4 at T, 1 min rest (6:13, 5:56, 6:00, 5:54, quite windy) AVG HR 161 MHR:180 very easy! Could've repeated the workout immediately if I wanted to, feeling invigorated! No watch-checking until the end of each rep. HR recovery: 1 min back to 120s, 2 mins 100s, 4 mins 90s.

本來諗sub-40, 但諗諗下目標都係健健康康咁跑, 時間今季佛系,緣份到了自然跑到, 好似係...除非唔係

btw, 今星期試下easy跑快D, 同家嫂差唔多pace, 跑左兩日唔對路, 好q累, 冇回復到, 我想佢係"easy", 但實際係"moderate", 之後星期五個workout跑到成pat屎咁, 完全扯唔高心率 xx(

前日慢跑由佢上7:10 1k, 比個阿嬸跑過左我 [sosad] [369]
但之後就回復返哂, 尋日跑完個workout覺得可以跑到4-5隻都得#yup#
我諗easy都係果日覺得輕鬆既pace算, 而家即係通常6:40-50 1k... [sosad]
btw, 家嫂你個態應該唔止43分 10k...

來緊幾星期會試下build up到一星期三次interval (675 x 8 at 10k, 1350 x 4 at t, 2700 x 2 at hm ) 如果有時間去運動場就600 x 9, 1400 x4, 2800 x 2
p.s: 唔係我個訓練唔係NSA, 事實我亦冇lactate meter, 不過有D野覺得的確值得參考

加油#adore# #adore# #adore#

屌你同叔一蕭跟唔跟機呀:-[

妖, 石門10KM改到同哩個賽差唔多期呀, 玩唔掂咁密.
仲有, 回晒塘, 年頭仲跑緊38MIN, 依家跑43MIN[sosad] [sosad] [sosad]
含得撚.


河畔賽full撚左:o)
有無人跑CCM?


Riverside 10k training week1
15/12 38 mins easy 6:24 (AHR:133 MHR:137) + gym
16/12 rest
17/12 41 mins moderate 5:35 (AHR: 151 MHR:157)
18/12 45 mins moderate 5:56/1k (AHR:147 MHR:152) tired, lots of negative thoughts
19/12 20 mins warm-up, 1350m x 4 at T, 1 min rest (6:40, 6:29, 6:30, 6:00) AVG HR 153 MHR:177 feeling like shit, really tough running at 160s HR, 170s was flat out racing.
HR recovery: 1 mins back to 120s, 2 mins 100s, 3-4 mins 90s
20/12 42 mins slow 7:09/1k (AHR:119 MHR:123) knackered at the start, but it got much better toward the end, nice, though got past by a grandma...lol
21/12 20 mins warm-up, 1350m x 4 at T, 1 min rest (6:13, 5:56, 6:00, 5:54, quite windy) AVG HR 161 MHR:180 very easy! Could've repeated the workout immediately if I wanted to, feeling invigorated! No watch-checking until the end of each rep. HR recovery: 1 min back to 120s, 2 mins 100s, 4 mins 90s.

本來諗sub-40, 但諗諗下目標都係健健康康咁跑, 時間今季佛系,緣份到了自然跑到, 好似係...除非唔係

btw, 今星期試下easy跑快D, 同家嫂差唔多pace, 跑左兩日唔對路, 好q累, 冇回復到, 我想佢係"easy", 但實際係"moderate", 之後星期五個workout跑到成pat屎咁, 完全扯唔高心率 xx(

前日慢跑由佢上7:10 1k, 比個阿嬸跑過左我 [sosad] [369]
但之後就回復返哂, 尋日跑完個workout覺得可以跑到4-5隻都得#yup#
我諗easy都係果日覺得輕鬆既pace算, 而家即係通常6:40-50 1k... [sosad]
btw, 家嫂你個態應該唔止43分 10k...

來緊幾星期會試下build up到一星期三次interval (675 x 8 at 10k, 1350 x 4 at t, 2700 x 2 at hm ) 如果有時間去運動場就600 x 9, 1400 x4, 2800 x 2
p.s: 唔係我個訓練唔係NSA, 事實我亦冇lactate meter, 不過有D野覺得的確值得參考

加油#adore# #adore# #adore#

屌你同叔一蕭跟唔跟機呀:-[

妖, 石門10KM改到同哩個賽差唔多期呀, 玩唔掂咁密.
仲有, 回晒塘, 年頭仲跑緊38MIN, 依家跑43MIN[sosad] [sosad] [sosad]
含得撚.


河畔賽full撚左:o)
有無人跑CCM?

我報左河畔。
CCM 會去做義工。


Riverside 10k training week1
15/12 38 mins easy 6:24 (AHR:133 MHR:137) + gym
16/12 rest
17/12 41 mins moderate 5:35 (AHR: 151 MHR:157)
18/12 45 mins moderate 5:56/1k (AHR:147 MHR:152) tired, lots of negative thoughts
19/12 20 mins warm-up, 1350m x 4 at T, 1 min rest (6:40, 6:29, 6:30, 6:00) AVG HR 153 MHR:177 feeling like shit, really tough running at 160s HR, 170s was flat out racing.
HR recovery: 1 mins back to 120s, 2 mins 100s, 3-4 mins 90s
20/12 42 mins slow 7:09/1k (AHR:119 MHR:123) knackered at the start, but it got much better toward the end, nice, though got past by a grandma...lol
21/12 20 mins warm-up, 1350m x 4 at T, 1 min rest (6:13, 5:56, 6:00, 5:54, quite windy) AVG HR 161 MHR:180 very easy! Could've repeated the workout immediately if I wanted to, feeling invigorated! No watch-checking until the end of each rep. HR recovery: 1 min back to 120s, 2 mins 100s, 4 mins 90s.

本來諗sub-40, 但諗諗下目標都係健健康康咁跑, 時間今季佛系,緣份到了自然跑到, 好似係...除非唔係

btw, 今星期試下easy跑快D, 同家嫂差唔多pace, 跑左兩日唔對路, 好q累, 冇回復到, 我想佢係"easy", 但實際係"moderate", 之後星期五個workout跑到成pat屎咁, 完全扯唔高心率 xx(

前日慢跑由佢上7:10 1k, 比個阿嬸跑過左我 [sosad] [369]
但之後就回復返哂, 尋日跑完個workout覺得可以跑到4-5隻都得#yup#
我諗easy都係果日覺得輕鬆既pace算, 而家即係通常6:40-50 1k... [sosad]
btw, 家嫂你個態應該唔止43分 10k...

來緊幾星期會試下build up到一星期三次interval (675 x 8 at 10k, 1350 x 4 at t, 2700 x 2 at hm ) 如果有時間去運動場就600 x 9, 1400 x4, 2800 x 2
p.s: 唔係我個訓練唔係NSA, 事實我亦冇lactate meter, 不過有D野覺得的確值得參考

加油#adore# #adore# #adore#

屌你同叔一蕭跟唔跟機呀:-[

妖, 石門10KM改到同哩個賽差唔多期呀, 玩唔掂咁密.
仲有, 回晒塘, 年頭仲跑緊38MIN, 依家跑43MIN[sosad] [sosad] [sosad]
含得撚.


河畔賽full撚左:o)
有無人跑CCM?

我報左河畔。
CCM 會去做義工。


#good# #good#


預祝大家新年快樂#bye#
希望2026年半馬可以sub80#adore# #adore#


仲有兩星期就渣馬,希望順利完賽O:-)
最長練咗一次31k,20k以上呢2個月都係得3次,唔知完唔完到[sosad]

年跑量首次突破1000k#ass#


仲有兩星期就渣馬,希望順利完賽O:-)
最長練咗一次31k,20k以上呢2個月都係得3次,唔知完唔完到[sosad]

年跑量首次突破1000k#ass#

好似真係少左D


我岩岩人生PB,一個月300km跑步 #ass#


仲有兩星期就渣馬,希望順利完賽O:-)
最長練咗一次31k,20k以上呢2個月都係得3次,唔知完唔完到[sosad]

年跑量首次突破1000k#ass#


你有玩山, 腳力係度O既, 內力多數無乜問題.
衰個D多數練平路多.


我岩岩人生PB,一個月300km跑步 #ass#

你全馬空間好大啦. 攪掂個問題渣馬跑SUB330 係無難度.


仲有兩星期就渣馬,希望順利完賽O:-)
最長練咗一次31k,20k以上呢2個月都係得3次,唔知完唔完到[sosad]

年跑量首次突破1000k#ass#

好似真係少左D

的確[sosad]
不過山賽計埋攀升EP超過全馬都玩過幾場,腳力完到掛。練習無食gel,比賽會食[sosad]

目標3:50左右,保守D


仲有兩星期就渣馬,希望順利完賽O:-)
最長練咗一次31k,20k以上呢2個月都係得3次,唔知完唔完到[sosad]

年跑量首次突破1000k#ass#


你有玩山, 腳力係度O既, 內力多數無乜問題.
衰個D多數練平路多.

山可以轉換下肌肉,路跑全程同一個動作驚膝頭頂唔緊O:-)

希望比賽adrenaline + 補給幫助下可以維持到


仲有兩星期就渣馬,希望順利完賽O:-)
最長練咗一次31k,20k以上呢2個月都係得3次,唔知完唔完到[sosad]

年跑量首次突破1000k#ass#


你有玩山, 腳力係度O既, 內力多數無乜問題.
衰個D多數練平路多.

山可以轉換下肌肉,路跑全程同一個動作驚膝頭頂唔緊O:-)

希望比賽adrenaline + 補給幫助下可以維持到


早好多年某次玩環港島路跑, 有個同我差唔多速度的跑到尾(已跑咗4X KM)咁有緣同佢傾計, 佢都話平時只係練1X KM跑山.
其實練山肌肉更全面, 耐力更好, 根基好夠, 係速度感無路跑人咁好啫.


我覺得 環島 港島徑 都比 全馬拉松容易
呢三樣一年各一次
全馬,學白板小姐話齋,係同一組肌肉不停運動四小時 [banghead]


仲有兩星期就渣馬,希望順利完賽O:-)
最長練咗一次31k,20k以上呢2個月都係得3次,唔知完唔完到[sosad]

年跑量首次突破1000k#ass#


你有玩山, 腳力係度O既, 內力多數無乜問題.
衰個D多數練平路多.

山可以轉換下肌肉,路跑全程同一個動作驚膝頭頂唔緊O:-)

希望比賽adrenaline + 補給幫助下可以維持到


早好多年某次玩環港島路跑, 有個同我差唔多速度的跑到尾(已跑咗4X KM)咁有緣同佢傾計, 佢都話平時只係練1X KM跑山.
其實練山肌肉更全面, 耐力更好, 根基好夠, 係速度感無路跑人咁好啫.

我練路比較多練快過目標馬速去適應番速度感
通常練幾次long interval路跑個適應性會好好多

而家少咗時間上山,都係練lsd, easy, threshold/tempo 一星期最多3日跑,仲有一次gym


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