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Yes, you're correct in observing that elite runners tend to have a smaller pace gap between different distances (e.g., 800m vs. 10K vs. marathon) compared to amateurs. This phenomenon occurs due to several factors:

1. Specialization vs. Generalization:

Elites are highly specialized for their primary event (e.g., marathoners train specifically for endurance, while 800m runners focus on speed). However, even elites who specialize in longer distances (like the marathon) often have a strong aerobic base and efficient running economy, allowing them to maintain a relatively fast pace across longer distances.

Amateurs typically have less specific training and may lack the aerobic capacity or running efficiency to sustain paces closer to their shorter-distance speeds.


2. Aerobic Capacity and Efficiency:

Elite marathoners have exceptional aerobic engines (high VO2 max, lactate threshold, and running economy), which allow them to sustain a pace closer to their shorter-distance speeds. For example, their marathon pace might be ~80-85% of their 10K pace, whereas an amateur's marathon pace might drop to ~70-75% of their 10K pace.

Amateurs often "fall off" more dramatically in longer races due to fatigue, less efficient form, or inadequate endurance training.


3. Pace Decay:

The "pace decay" (the percentage slowdown as distance increases) is smaller for elites. For example:

An elite might run a 10K at ~4:30/mile pace and a marathon at ~4:50-5:00/mile pace (~10-15% slower).

An amateur might run a 10K at ~7:00/mile pace and a marathon at ~8:30-9:00/mile pace (~20-25% slower).


4. Training Volume and Recovery:

Elites can handle much higher training volumes (100+ miles/week) with better recovery, which improves their endurance and reduces pace drop-off in longer races.

Amateurs often can't sustain the same volume or intensity, leading to bigger slowdowns in longer events.

Example:

Elite Runner:
800m: ~1:45 (pace ~3:30/mile)
10K: ~27:00 (pace ~4:20/mile)
Marathon: ~2:05 (pace ~4:45/mile)
The pace slows by ~25% from 800m to marathon.

Amateur Runner:
800m: ~2:30 (pace ~5:00/mile)
10K: ~45:00 (pace ~7:15/mile)
Marathon: ~3:30 (pace ~8:00/mile)
The pace slows by ~60% from 800m to marathon.

Mathematical Confirmation:
The relationship between race pace and distance is often modeled by the Riegel formula:
https://upload.hkgolden.media/comment/tul2in4i.r1j05yazqy1.c4ub1a4nqnx.gmb.png
where k is a "fatigue factor" (typically ~1.06 for elites, ~1.15 for amateurs). A lower
k means less slowdown over distance, confirming elites have smaller pace gaps.


https://upload.hkgolden.media/comment/vfdvg2g0.b0h0stxv5fx.yynqllyowtq.met.png
點搞好:-(
已經keep住行路返工(上落山有30分鐘)xx(
跑步右腳小腿又痛xx(

做肌力訓練:
一來可以增加基礎代謝。
二來可以保護身體(你小腿痛)

Look in Youtube:
Calf training, Quad training, Hip and Glute work out.

行上樓梯。呢樣野衝擊少而卡路里消耗大。

上落山30分鐘其實唔太多。如果唔痛可以繼續。甚至wkend去郊野進行。如果有風景,會行耐D。

但prioritise on strength training.

Can discuss the next step when:
- a month or two passed, you are able to do all these without pain
- you encounter pain in this work out


https://upload.hkgolden.media/comment/vfdvg2g0.b0h0stxv5fx.yynqllyowtq.met.png
點搞好:-(
已經keep住行路返工(上落山有30分鐘)xx(
跑步右腳小腿又痛xx(

做肌力訓練:
一來可以增加基礎代謝。
二來可以保護身體(你小腿痛)

Look in Youtube:
Calf training, Quad training, Hip and Glute work out.

行上樓梯。呢樣野衝擊少而卡路里消耗大。

上落山30分鐘其實唔太多。如果唔痛可以繼續。甚至wkend去郊野進行。如果有風景,會行耐D。

但prioritise on strength training.

Can discuss the next step when:
- a month or two passed, you are able to do all these without pain
- you encounter pain in this work out

OK#adore#


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#adore# 牙JOE頂住


謝上位巴新post#adore#
依幾日病到Hi Hi, 冇入黎, 而家仲好頭暈, Hixx(

btw, 早幾日巴黎DL 好癲, 兩個3:27, 一個18歲仔, 一個31歲
Hi 你而家1500米真係好恐怖


https://upload.hkgolden.media/comment/dxhrurxf.wuq03hemcqv.4tk1mzfqduv.yw0.jpg
琴晚焗到,都唔知幾耐冇上過170[sosad]


https://upload.hkgolden.media/comment/dxhrurxf.wuq03hemcqv.4tk1mzfqduv.yw0.jpg
琴晚焗到,都唔知幾耐冇上過170[sosad]

I hit 187 bpm last night :~(


https://upload.hkgolden.media/comment/vfdvg2g0.b0h0stxv5fx.yynqllyowtq.met.png
點搞好:-(
已經keep住行路返工(上落山有30分鐘)xx(
跑步右腳小腿又痛xx(

做肌力訓練:
一來可以增加基礎代謝。
二來可以保護身體(你小腿痛)

Look in Youtube:
Calf training, Quad training, Hip and Glute work out.

行上樓梯。呢樣野衝擊少而卡路里消耗大。

上落山30分鐘其實唔太多。如果唔痛可以繼續。甚至wkend去郊野進行。如果有風景,會行耐D。

但prioritise on strength training.

Can discuss the next step when:
- a month or two passed, you are able to do all these without pain
- you encounter pain in this work out

OK#adore#

借問聲用咩磅睇#adore#


https://upload.hkgolden.media/comment/vfdvg2g0.b0h0stxv5fx.yynqllyowtq.met.png
點搞好:-(
已經keep住行路返工(上落山有30分鐘)xx(
跑步右腳小腿又痛xx(

做肌力訓練:
一來可以增加基礎代謝。
二來可以保護身體(你小腿痛)

Look in Youtube:
Calf training, Quad training, Hip and Glute work out.

行上樓梯。呢樣野衝擊少而卡路里消耗大。

上落山30分鐘其實唔太多。如果唔痛可以繼續。甚至wkend去郊野進行。如果有風景,會行耐D。

但prioritise on strength training.

Can discuss the next step when:
- a month or two passed, you are able to do all these without pain
- you encounter pain in this work out

OK#adore#

借問聲用咩磅睇#adore#


果陣我係健康展check[sosad]

好似有d運動場有呢d磅睇 要google下


膝頭唔舒服, 想照下x 光睇下有乜問題, 應該睇家庭醫生 or 物理治療c ?


https://upload.hkgolden.media/comment/dxhrurxf.wuq03hemcqv.4tk1mzfqduv.yw0.jpg
琴晚焗到,都唔知幾耐冇上過170[sosad]

I hit 187 bpm last night :~(


我心率上得慢, 10K比賽最尾都係166,167[sosad]
夏天真係安全完成最重要[sosad]


膝頭唔舒服, 想照下x 光睇下有乜問題, 應該睇家庭醫生 or 物理治療c ?


照左x光先都正路 睇下骨有無事
要claim保險就睇醫生 拎張轉介信 再睇物理治療喇


膝頭唔舒服, 想照下x 光睇下有乜問題, 應該睇家庭醫生 or 物理治療c ?

X光睇骨。軟組織係 MRI. 好貴。

你應該睇家庭醫生轉介物理治療。

物理治療識得好多 Test. 譬如 Lock 你一度,test 你第二度。

Test 冇辦法 identify 先做 MRI.


謝上位巴新post#adore#
依幾日病到Hi Hi, 冇入黎, 而家仲好頭暈, Hixx(

btw, 早幾日巴黎DL 好癲, 兩個3:27, 一個18歲仔, 一個31歲
Hi 你而家1500米真係好恐怖


早日康復
而家1500米好好睇 好多痴線佬[sosad]


大阪返到香港,推介大家可以跑長居公園,唔洗下下大阪城咁悶。


大阪返到香港,推介大家可以跑長居公園,唔洗下下大阪城咁悶。


#good#
有無parkrun? 日本都搞parkrun


夏天跑10K ~等如冬天15K以上
比人打完一獲咁:o)


夏天跑10K ~等如冬天15K以上
比人打完一獲咁:o)

yes. same feeling.


大阪返到香港,推介大家可以跑長居公園,唔洗下下大阪城咁悶。


#good#
有無parkrun? 日本都搞parkrun

跑完先知有,好想聞下日本妹:~(


夏天跑10K ~等如冬天15K以上
比人打完一獲咁:o)

yes. same feeling.


今日涼少少 都係濕哂


大阪返到香港,推介大家可以跑長居公園,唔洗下下大阪城咁悶。


#good#
有無parkrun? 日本都搞parkrun

跑完先知有,好想聞下日本妹:~(


[bomb] 我都未跑過 下次旅行跑


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